The time for teasing is over. We are thrilled to announce Light’s Vengeance: a brand new project that is comprised of Symmetry vanilla, the Vengeance team, and also the Light’s Hope vanilla staff who are interested in progressing into TBC emulation.
Together we intend to offer Progress Through Expansion (PTE) experiences from 1.12 through the dark portal for players of our vanilla realms. Our players will be able to enjoy the fruits of years of labour developing TBC on cMaNGOS - a dream made possible by players and devs who wanted the best TBC experience possible available to everybody.
We’re sure there’s lots of questions. Not everything is confirmed enough to share yet, but for now, here’s the essentials:
The TBC core will be public cMaNGOS and improvements still being made by the Vengeance devs, who are all moving into the new Light’s Vengeance team.
Light’s Vengeance is a new project. At the moment the previous plans of the respective projects who are merging have currently not changed. This means Vengeance, as Light’s Vengeance, still intends to release Stormspire PvE i58/PTE TBC in early Summer, and the Light’s Hope project still intends to shut down their Vanilla servers following the release of classic.
More details for those interested in Stormspire will be available soon.
A PvP TBC server under the Light’s Vengeance project will be made at a later date (currently tentatively end of 2019; more details to come).
Character transfers will still be made available from the Light’s Hope realms at time of shutdown to be transferred to other servers. Light’s Vengeance intends to set up a vanilla server that PvP characters interested in PTE can transfer character data to while awaiting Light’s Vengeance PvP TBC. It will not be a F R E S H server (sorry, kids).
There’s a lot of work to be done to unify our three projects under one new umbrella, but we’re working hard on setting up our new home and we’ll have it ready soon. For now, find updates at:
We hope that everyone is as excited about this as we are! Have a great weekend!
The Light’s Vengeance Team
Symmetry - Light’s Hope - Vengeance
Hopefully everyone is enjoying the new year so far, and today we have some news great news to share with you!
Here at VengeanceWoW, we are constantly working hard to deliver the best TBC experience for everyone to enjoy, by being the official CMaNGOS TBC maintainers and pushing hard on open source development. And as such, we are now taking a step forward.
As of this moment, Instant-70 feature is live and usable by everyone.
For the Instant 70 / Instant 58 guide, click here:
This is to encourage everyone to check out our development realm - Stonetalon, and you can use this opportunity to test Black Temple and perhaps even settle down. It is not too late to join, since our progression for that realm is still not over.
There is a saying, "Be the change you want to see in the world."
We highly encourage reporting any bugs you might encounter. Not only will this help smooth the experience for everyone rolling on the fresh realm in the future (Stormspire, coming summer 2019), but also by reporting bugs on VengeanceWoW, you are actually helping in a bigger way. The fixes to the bugs you help to uncover will be exported to open source for all to use. We believe that not only is this the right way, but the only way to actually improve the private server scene as a whole.
As always, anyone who wants to help with CMaNGOS development is welcome to join our Discord - https://discord.me/vengeancewow
If you have any questions regarding Instant 70 feature, open source development or anything alike, feel free to contact us by using the Discord link above.
- VengeanceWoW Team
recently we talked to our guild-masters and we asked them what they would like to ease the life on Stonetalon. Here are our responses.
1. Release schedule
Answer: Right now there was a slight delay in initial BT release due to the trash mobs. MantisLord is working on it as we speak, at worst it should take one more week to finish. Next we plan to release next 3 bosses (Essences, Mother and Council) in January. Illidan will not be included due to his complexity, since we want to take our sweet time with the archnemesis of TBC. ZA will still be worked on in parallel throughout January. No ETAs, but a lot of nice progress is being made.
2. Development focus on SWP after ZA
Answer: We do plan to work on 2.4 content, but 2.4 is a bit of a mixed bag. It has a lot of features, which are not present in our/any TBC core there is out there right now. We already implemented one such feature - Multischool spells. 2.4 contains a lot of one-off special effects that are not present anywhere else in the expansion. We will definitely work on 2.4, but the transition from ZA to SWP is not as easy as BT to ZA.
3. Dropping support for ST after SS is released
Answer: ST was, is and always will be supported as long as its open. The C++ core will be the same as Stormspire. We already have a deployment procedure for PTR, which is slightly different, but in no way increases development time. As a result Stormspire fixes will always make it to ST and vice versa.
4. Crossfaction being enabled
Answer: We still want to opt in for instant-70 rather than crossfaction. Crossfaction runs with an advertisement penalty and labeling of a truly desperate server. Instant 70 is being worked on. Expect in 1-2 weeks. Tied into point 8.
5. QOL adjustments
Answer: We will drop attunement requirements effective immediately on next deployment.
6. Primal Nether BOE change
Answer: This is originally slated for patch 2.4 and we want to stay it that way for now. Maybe on Zul'Aman release we will reevaluate on this decision.
7. Hyjal JC pattern drop chance
Answer: This is a good one. We will increase drop chances to counter the low population.
8. Continued marketing of ST
Answer: We plan to make lots of videos. In each video we will want to promote Vengeance, that being the current Stonetalon realm, the existing PTR realm for testing and the upcoming StormSpire PTE realm. Nothing will change here, we will encourage people to try us out, since we are still to date the only PVE realm. Going forward we will market ST as a raiding focused realm. This is in line with us introducing the i70 feature. The i58 feature is not going anywhere, for those who want to level.
And a small note of what you can expect soon™. On next server deployment we are deploying Fanning. The next big feature after that is a refactor of Leashing, which should get rid of some inconsistencies and also enable us to do proper leashing in some scenarios like bossfights with more ease. We are also clearing a lot of our backlog, we recently revamped Attumen, Maiden of Virtue and Illhoof, as well as Underbog boss Swamplord Musel'ek. This trend will definitely continue going forward.
Settle in! We have so much exciting news to tell you.
Killerwife has recently completed a large export to cmangos containing updates and fixes through all 2.0.3 including all T4 and T5 content. Why is this so exciting? It means that the end of the VengeanceWoW development cycle is finally in sight.
This means it's time to announce that the long-anticipated relaunch of a progressive VengeanceWoW TBC server is coming! It will be complete with all the scripting and improvements to foundational systems that have been worked on so hard over these last few years by the Vengeance team and cmangos contributing partners. The dedicated players of the Stonetalon, both past and present, also deserve a lot of thanks. They made up a significant portion of player testing and research, and we can't understate how important a part this played in development.
The coming Vengeance server - Stormspire - will truly be the work by the people and for the people. And part of this includes inviting some new friends to come play. Symmetry WoW decided this October to become a part of our project, and we welcome Patch warmly to the VengeanceWoW team!
We will be providing the announced progress through expansion experience from vanilla for the players of the Symmetry WoW realm. The relaunch will coincide with the end of Symmetry WoW's development cycle, anticipated sometime early this summer. Symmetry welcomes any players who want to enjoy vanilla progression through Naxxramus and become part of the PTE to Stormspire! To create an account and begin your journey today please visit https://symmetrywow.com/ to register.
We want to emphasize for those who may be concerned that Stonetalon's not going anywhere soon - there's work yet to be done, and Stonetalon is still our primary focus. Our team is doing preliminary tests on Black Temple boss scripting on the PTR right now, and we are aiming to have a portion of Black Temple content out live before the end of the year. Zul'Aman for Stonetalon is also in progress, and we have more polishing and after that, working on bugfixes in preparation for making the new deployment as perfect an experience as possible.
To this end, we are actively recruiting more staff. If you are a developer with experience in core or DB, or are a web dev with experience in vue and laravel, and you're interested in becoming part of the Vengeance project, please reach out to us on the Vengeance discord at https://discord.gg/RX44XY2 in the #recruitment channel.
We thank the community for supporting this endeavour, and the tireless work of everyone who have helped make this possible. Enjoy your holidays, have a happy new year, and we will see you in the new year with more information!
- The Vengeance Team